I don’t know what I can say with them. They don’t know Chinese culture but Chinese history and philosophy and sentiment all in it. As Chinese we aren’t Gov. plants we only love deeply China because it’s our motherland. Many Chinese like me could become CCP members but we rejected. We also have many discontentment at Gov and you can know these on Tianya which is big Chinese forum net if you know Chinese characters or use translator tools.

I think corruption and inefficiency such as these problems in every country included in US. We should think how to promote not means we should overthrow the government. China needs peaceable circumstance to develop economy like other countries. Many Chinese study hard and work hard and wanna make China better. But westerns think we are all brainwashed if we tell them what we think really.

American think they stand for freedom so they think American standard is great in the world and  wanna put it on the people in every country. Chinese Taiwan and Japan and Korea are under their nuclear umbrella so American soldier can rape women there. They said Iraq war and Afghanistan war and all war which US carried is to liberate the people there. Hah… US really regarded itself as “justicial emissary” and protects the world only to be their responsibility.

As Chinese we know China had black history but it also has in other countries. The Kwangju(광주) Massacre in South Korea and Korean Students Blame U.S. For 1980 Massacre Of 2000 Students. Korean Gov also has slaughtered 100,000-200,000 people on 1950 nearby Daejeon (대전) ,which US military photos are unsealed on May,2008 and now Korean Gov. has began to investigate. AP IMPACT: Thousands killed by US's Korean ally. I don’t know how many events like this have happened but I know it happened in every country.

I don’t agree with American that the people live in China without freedom. I only know freedom isn’t absolute and the degree of freedom is different in every country. They think God is American absolutely but many Chinese don’t be Christian like me. So it’s different opinions how to think about the world between China and Western countries.

I respect religion but don’t think religion can stand for a standard. Sometimes right or wrong is only both sides of a coin just like we always say truth can testify finally. You know maybe the thing is same but the truth must be different so “Truth” isn’t absolute only is up to us.

I have studied “Current international Politics and Economy” in college. I don’t know which is better to the people about Chinese and western regime because I don’t have deep search about it but I know China is one of big countries in the world and its population is more than 1.3 billion and the gap between rich and poor is severe problem and so on.

I don’t know when these problems can be resolved because it’s about many factors such as history and economy and landform and resource…Chinese people have pushed all effort to develop our country so the master of this ground is obviously Chinese not US or others. China is not American back garden. Never!

As Chinese we don’t acceptance some western free press about real China. It’s ill-natured. We talk these only as ourselves and we wanna tell you how China it is in our eyes and wanna know your thought.

Please tell me if you have any question. We can really discuss not throw stones each other. And I also say sorry to you in advance if you feel unhappy about something and thank you for reading.

    I was very shocked by what I had seen in the television and been reading in China daily about the riots in Lhasa. The most that shocked me was anyhow may be not the cruel events by themselves but how the medias in my country of origin, Finland, reported the events. A friend has scanned and sent me articles and I have checked also myself what can be found at Internet.

    Very few Finnish people have ever visited Tibet, but I was there together with my wife in 2006. This was private persons and not as a part of a group-travel. I have seen Lhasa with my own eyes. I have been talking and chatting with people there. This was without any restrictions. Okay, we had a lovely and very competent guide that helped us much and took us where we wanted to go in the mornings but in the afternoons we were alone. Therefore I think that I have something to tell.

    I am also interested in history and know more than people in general. When writing this, I do not have any reference books so I write out of my memory. If I do a small mistake somewhere, I beg your pardon. Anyhow, I think that this gives my writing an objectivity. I am well aware of that I will be accused for this and that for writing what I think is the truth. I will be accused by those who think that they know but do not know and by those that haven't seen by their own eyes.

    Tibet was for centuries an autonomous concordat between Nepal and China. Sometimes China ruled Nepal as well. The king of Tibet used therefore to have one Chinese wife and one Nepalese and then a number of Tibetan ones.

    With the fifth Dalai Lama, the religious and the political power were unified under the rule of one person, The Dalai Lama. Tibet became a theocratic dictatorship and closed itself for the rest of the world. No foreigners were anymore allowed in.

    At the end of the nineteenth century, the famous Swedish traveller Sven Hedin made an attempt to reach Lhasa but was sent politely back, out of Tibet by Dalai Lama.

    A French woman, Alexandra David-Néel was more successful. She visited Lhasa dressed as a Tibetan pilgrim and she was fluent in the Tibetan language. She told how she was afraid many times that she should be discovered and then she knew that she like other suspects or opponents should "happen to fall down" from the walls of the Potala palace.

    Tibet was not a paradise. Tibet was an inhuman dictatorship!

    The weakened Chinese Qing Dynasty had more and more lost its influence in Tibet. Tibet became more and more interesting for the Russian empire in the north and the British in the south.

    In 1903 a British army expedition directed by the colonel Younghusband reached Lhasa. The British lost 4 soldiers but slaughtered more the 700 Tibetans that tryed to stop them, mainly by magic. The British installed "a commercial representation" in Lhasa. The Chinese evacuated Dalai Lama to the Qinghai plateau where he hade limited rights of move, probably for preventing him from having contacts with the British occupants.

    The Finnish national hero, Marshal Mannerheim, visited him there in 1907 during his famous horseback trip through central Asia. He was then a colonel in the Tsar Russian army and his trip was in reality a spy trip. Therefore the 13th Dalai Lama was interesting.

    The power of Dalai Lama was weakened. In 1950 the PLA marched in to Tibet without war. The 14th Dalai Lama seems at the beginning to have accepted this just as a security for his power as the theocratic dictator he was. He enlarged and restructured the Norbulingka Summer Palace in a luxury way in 1954.

    The Chinese decided anyhow to finish with the cruel theocratic dictatorship under which the opponents fell down from Potala. The borders where during this dictatorship closed for all foreigners and the only schools where the religious ones. It is well known that it is easier to rule a population with a low education and is ignoring the outside world. In Tibet, about 5% of the population owned everything and the rest literally nothing. About 40% of the Tibetans were monks and nuns living as parasites on the rest of the population that had to feed them. Tibet was not a paradise!

    Now China decided that the Tibetans should have the same rights and place in the society as the rest of the country's population. The monasteries should be emptied from their excessively large monk and nun populations.

    Tibet could earlier be reached only by some horse trails and was for the rest insulated. The Chinese built rapidly a trafficable road. The insulation was broken.

    In 1959, the young Dalai Lama caused a peoples upraising, using the religion as power since he was loosing his own powerful position. The upraising was however stopped, may be in not a too clever and smooth manner. Dalai Lama then left Tibet and his fellow citizens and escaped to India wherefrom he has continued to fight for his come back and reinstall the theocratic dictatorship that China will never allow again.

    Then followed the ten years of Cultural Revolution that was an unhappy time for all China that closed itself to the rest of the world.

    Now Lhasa has a modern airport and a railway. China has invested a lot in Tibet. The standard of living has been raised a lot in Tibet and last Xmas I have seen Tibetans spending sun-holidays on Hainan Island! Very lucky looking old women in traditional dresses walking on the beach with their husbands and the youngsters dressed like other young people enjoying the beach life.

    The possibilities for Dalai Lama to take back his power has diminished and he does not anymore have the population with him. China and India are developing their cooperation and with the closer friendship, India will for sure also not more admit Dalai Lama to disturb this development. His possibilities to act against China will be diminished.

    Therefore he undertook recently an around the world diplomatic travel since he has seen the possibility of harming the now good international image of China and provoking boycotts of the Olympic games in Beijing.

    The Lhasa riots where very well prepared. Curriers where crossing the borders illegally for to see Dalai Lama and get his orders. A group of foreign mountain climbers filmed recently across the border an unlucky incident when one of these curriers got shot and another that crossed the border openly declared that he wanted to go to see the Dalai Lama. I have seen that in television just before I left for China in November.

    China is no longer a closed country. There is no need for illegal border crossings if you are not doing something illegally! You just ask for a passport and take the necessary visas and cross the border at a legal border crossing or better, just take a regular flight from Lhasa to Kathmandu!

    There where no peaceful demonstrations in Lhasa that where brutally knocked down! Young men went to action after a well prepared scenario at many places at the same time so that police and fire brigade should be taken by surprise and unable to act everywhere at the same time. This was successful! People where just knocked down without differences and all what could be broken was broken in the shortest possible time. With Molotov cocktails, fires where lit and fire cars where stopped. 18 normal citizens where killed without feelings and one police. The police had order to not respond with firearms for not being internationally blamed!

    When I have seen the filmed riots in television, my diagnosis was immediately clear. The scenario was the same that I had seen many times of organized riots in France since more the forty years of tight familiar contacts and 21 years of living there. The difference was only that less ordinary people seemed to take part in Lhasa. The rioters where surprisingly few but well organized! China's positive image in the world should be damaged!

    Dalai Lama is acting as the friendly and peaceful father. This is an old trick that also dictators like Hitler and Stalin used. I am not comparing him with them but he is acting like a demon when he tries to take back his power at any cost, not once caring for human lives and against Buddhistic non-violence principles. It was a try to do a coup d'ètat that failed. Now he is asking for international help for to stop the violence that he, himself had planned!

    When I visited Tibet in 2006, I was surprised by the relaxed atmosphere and the few policemen in Lhasa. All that I have seen were Tibetans. Not the Han-Chinese. The atmosphere was remarkably peaceful and gave a picture of general well living. There was no oppressed feeling like I had seen so many times in the Soviet Union and its satellites before all that non-human system collapsed. People in Lhasa where friendly and wanted to speak to me, mostly without success since I do not speak Chinese nor Tibetan but up and then somebody could speak some words in English. Their wish for contact was just out of normal curiosity towards the foreigners.

    I had heard that the religious life should been oppressed but it was flowering! I had also heard that so many Han Chinese where moved in that the Tibetans where now very few in Lhasa. I did however see much more Tibetans there. May be that the Han Chinese where hiding?

    The western medias announced that China had cut all information and that articles about the riots could not be sent out! I got mad about all the apparently incorrect information and wrote this article and two other similar ones although I am not a journalist but just because I could not stand all the bad things about China that was told. I sent them by e-mail without problems and they arrived well but two newspapers did neither respond neither publish what I had written. The third answered and wanted a shorter version that was published many days later as a normal "readers voice". What Dalai Lama had said was largely published every day together with a real anti-China propaganda. What I had written was apparently too China friendly for the "free press".

（士兵与枪)"살아있는 동안은 다시 중국에서 올림픽을 열지 않았으면 좋겠다. 29회가 처음이자 마지막이길 희망한다. 일본의 우익단체, 한국의 탈북자가 모두 이때다 싶어 뛰쳐나와 시위를 한다. 어떤 도발을 받았을지 안봐도 알 수 있다. ..... 중국이 뭘 하든 다 잘못했다 ... 사진을 보니 사람을 때리기 시작한 유학생들은 잘못했다. 그러나 맞은 사람들은 자신의 행동에 책임을 져야하지 않는가? ..... 지금 중국은 당승(서유기에서 삼장법사 고기를 노리는 요괴?가 많았던 것에 비유)의 고기나 다름없어 누구나 한 입 물고 싶어한다. 이미 시시비비는 중요하지 않게 됐다. 파리에서 시작해서 중국은 재난을 기다리는 당승의 처지가 됐다."

theZINE: 이 글에는 요즘 중국인들의 심정이 고루 표현되어있다. 이번 성화 봉송은 세계 도처에서 반대 시위를 만났다. 나치 독일의 베를린 올림픽과 소련/미국의 올림픽 외에는 유례가 없던 일이다. 특히 최근의 어떤 스포츠 행사도 이처럼 정치적인 문제가 화제가 된 적이 없었다. 중국인들이 성장한 국력을 과시하고 한껏 축제로 꾸미고 싶었던 올림픽에 대해 여러 면에서 지적을 받는 것이 일반적인 중국인들에게 어떤 느낌일지 상상할 수 있다. 모든 사람들이 둘러 싸고 비난을 하는 듯한 느낌일 것이다.

theZINE: 중국인의 입장에서 마지막 글보다 더 객관적으로 글을 쓰기는 어려울 것이다. 또 이성을 강조하고 폭력을 비판하는 논점을 보호하기 위해서 상대방의 도발을 언급한 측면도 있을 거라 생각한다.

 물론 위에 소개한 사진과 글들을 게시한 사람들은 전체 리플 중에 소수에 불과하다. 실제로 리플들을 읽어보면 잘못된 지식에 근거한 악플성 리플들이 상당수다.

 처음에는 올림픽 공원과 시청 앞 광장에서 일어난 소요사태가 이번 문제의 시발점이 되었다. 하지만 양국 온라인 사이트와 유튜브 등에서 벌어지고 있는 온라인 전쟁(?) 때문에 그보다 더한 격한 감정 싸움이 벌어지고 있다.

 며칠 전에 일어났다는 살인사건이 이 일과는 무관함에도 불구하고 블로그 차트에 오르는가 하면 정도의 차이는 있으나 양국 온라인에서 잘못된 소문이 확대재생산되는 경우도 생기고 있다.

 실제 폭력을 휘두른 학생도 아니고 단지 언론 인터뷰 등에 응한 중국인 유학생들에게 협박 메일과 문자 메세지가 쏟아지는가 하면 인터넷에는 출처를 알 수 없는 살생부 명단이 나돌고 있다. 한국 사람으로서 분노하는 것이 당연하지만 분노를 표출하는 방법에는 우려가 가는 대목이다.

 이번 폭력 사태에 대한 어떤 시민의 인터뷰가 기억에 남는다.

 "왜 다른 나라에 와서.."
 "다른 민족들이..."

 우리나라 뿐 아니라 모든 나라에는 다소간의 외국인 혐오증(Xenophobia)이 존재한다. 요즘 거리에선 십년 전과는 비교할 수 없이 많은 외국인을 볼 수 있다. 당연히 이런 저런 충돌이 생기고 가장 먼저 눈에 들어오는 인종과 민족, 국가의 차이로 상대방을 규정하게 된다. 잘못된 행동에 대한 비판은 그런 식으로 해당 집단 전체에 대한 공격으로 바뀐다.

 언론 보도에 아쉬운 부분이 있었다. 중국인 학생이 머리를 다친 사진이 있는데 이런 것까지도 모두 보도하려는 노력을 보였다면 적어도 생색은 낼 수 있지 않았을까 싶다. 그런 작은 부분에 신경을 쓴다면 한국인이 먼저 도발을 했다느니, 중국인이 다친 것을 왜곡한다느니 하는 말도 안되는 핑계들을 반박하기에 더 좋았을 것이다.

 폭력 학생들은 채증한 자료와 증거물을 토대로 철저히 검거해 법대로 처벌해야 한다. 우리나라 경찰이 게을러서 그렇지 일을 못하는 편은 아니라고 생각한다. 폭력학생들과 다수 중국 네티즌들의 비이성적인 행동에 자극받아 살생부니, 협박 메일이니 하는 수단을 동원하는 것은 자칫 사태의 주객을 전도시킬 위험이 있다. 정말 그들과 우리가 다르다고 믿는다면 감정적인 반응은 자제하고 수사와 처벌 같은 정부의 조치를 기다려보는 게 어떨까.

Comment 2: 저도 비슷하게 생각합니다. 어제 아는 중국유학생과 저녁을 먹으면서 이야기했는데 크게 이해 못할 일은 아니라고 생각합니다. 외국에서 자국이 무시당하는걸 참을 수 있는 사람이 몇이 되겠습니까. 중국인들이나 한국인들이나 인터넷에서는 매 한가지군요..슬픕니다. 서로 친하게 지내면 좋은데.. From: 김은택2008/05/01 03:03

Comment 3: 중국인들의 이성적인 생각을 한국 친구들에게 전해주시는 게 정말 감사합니다. 중국 학생으로서 저도 한국 친구들이 이번 사건에 대한 분노를 이해할 수 있습니다. 저는 북경에 있어서 그날에는 서울에서의 실제 상황을 정확하게 알 수 없었지만 어떤 보도 사진만 봐도 일부 중국 유학생의 행위는 너무한 것이라고 생각합니다. 저는 전체 중국 국민을 대표할 수 없어도 개인적으로 한국 친구들에게 Sorry하다는 말을 하고 싶습니다. 정말 오해가 풀리고 서로 친하게 지내면 좋겠습니다. From: 오상 2008/05/01 11:48